Bomb expert's training cache stolen

"JohnH" wrote in message

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:26 -0500, Harry Krause
> wrote:
>
>>Bomb expert's training cache stolen
>>
>>ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Dec. 20 (UPI) -- A massive hunt was on Tuesday in and
>>around Albuquerque, N.M., for hundreds of pounds of explosives stolen
>>from a bomb expert's warehouse training cache.
>>
>>Chris Cherry, a scientist who specializes in explosives and is
>>considered one of the nation's leading bomb technology experts, reported
>>the theft Sunday.
>>
>>Local, state and federal officials set up an emergency operations center
>>and posted a $50,000 reward for the recovery of the materials.
>>
>>The Albuquerque Journal said several hundred pounds of plastic
>>explosives, 2,500 blasting caps and explosive detonator cords were stolen.
>>
>>Cherry trains federal and local police bomb squads, and in 1996 helped
>>the FBI defuse one of "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski's bombs.
>>
>>Federal authorities said the stolen material could fit into the back of
>>a pickup, van or large sport utility vehicle.
>>
>>"We want to get these explosives off the street," said Wayne Dixie,
>>resident agent in charge of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and
>>Firearms' Albuquerque office. "The damage could be very extensive if in
>>the right hands."
>>
>>Copyright 2005 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
>>
>>
>>- - -
>>
>>This is kind of scary. A later report I heard on CNN said 550 pounds of
>>plastic explosives were taken. If the stuff isn't found and it is the
>>hands of the usual nutcases, we're in for some bad news.
>
> This has been on the radio, every hour on the hour, all day long. UPI
> didn't have much to add. I
> can't figure out why you posted it.


LOL!

And despite our agreement yet.

Special 'Harry' rules.............eh?
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"JohnH" wrote in message

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:26 -0500, Harry Krause
> wrote:
>
>>Bomb expert's training cache stolen
>>
>>ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Dec. 20 (UPI) -- A massive hunt was on Tuesday in and
>>around Albuquerque, N.M., for hundreds of pounds of explosives stolen
>>from a bomb expert's warehouse training cache.
>>
>>Chris Cherry, a scientist who specializes in explosives and is
>>considered one of the nation's leading bomb technology experts, reported
>>the theft Sunday.
>>
>>Local, state and federal officials set up an emergency operations center
>>and posted a $50,000 reward for the recovery of the materials.
>>
>>The Albuquerque Journal said several hundred pounds of plastic
>>explosives, 2,500 blasting caps and explosive detonator cords were stolen.
>>
>>Cherry trains federal and local police bomb squads, and in 1996 helped
>>the FBI defuse one of "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski's bombs.
>>
>>Federal authorities said the stolen material could fit into the back of
>>a pickup, van or large sport utility vehicle.
>>
>>"We want to get these explosives off the street," said Wayne Dixie,
>>resident agent in charge of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and
>>Firearms' Albuquerque office. "The damage could be very extensive if in
>>the right hands."
>>
>>Copyright 2005 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
>>
>>
>>- - -
>>
>>This is kind of scary. A later report I heard on CNN said 550 pounds of
>>plastic explosives were taken. If the stuff isn't found and it is the
>>hands of the usual nutcases, we're in for some bad news.
>
> This has been on the radio, every hour on the hour, all day long. UPI
> didn't have much to add. I
> can't figure out why you posted it. The explosive was C-4. Det cord is fun
> stuff.
> --
> John H
>
> **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
> *****...and your New Year even Better!*****

Only part was C4, they said the other was some undetectable stuff, that
could be made in to book pages.
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:29:49 GMT, "Bill McKee" wrote:

>
>"JohnH" wrote in message
>
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:26 -0500, Harry Krause
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Bomb expert's training cache stolen
>>>
>>>ALBUQUERQUE, N.M., Dec. 20 (UPI) -- A massive hunt was on Tuesday in and
>>>around Albuquerque, N.M., for hundreds of pounds of explosives stolen
>>>from a bomb expert's warehouse training cache.
>>>
>>>Chris Cherry, a scientist who specializes in explosives and is
>>>considered one of the nation's leading bomb technology experts, reported
>>>the theft Sunday.
>>>
>>>Local, state and federal officials set up an emergency operations center
>>>and posted a $50,000 reward for the recovery of the materials.
>>>
>>>The Albuquerque Journal said several hundred pounds of plastic
>>>explosives, 2,500 blasting caps and explosive detonator cords were stolen.
>>>
>>>Cherry trains federal and local police bomb squads, and in 1996 helped
>>>the FBI defuse one of "Unabomber" Ted Kaczynski's bombs.
>>>
>>>Federal authorities said the stolen material could fit into the back of
>>>a pickup, van or large sport utility vehicle.
>>>
>>>"We want to get these explosives off the street," said Wayne Dixie,
>>>resident agent in charge of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and
>>>Firearms' Albuquerque office. "The damage could be very extensive if in
>>>the right hands."
>>>
>>>Copyright 2005 by United Press International. All Rights Reserved.
>>>
>>>
>>>- - -
>>>
>>>This is kind of scary. A later report I heard on CNN said 550 pounds of
>>>plastic explosives were taken. If the stuff isn't found and it is the
>>>hands of the usual nutcases, we're in for some bad news.
>>
>> This has been on the radio, every hour on the hour, all day long. UPI
>> didn't have much to add. I
>> can't figure out why you posted it. The explosive was C-4. Det cord is fun
>> stuff.
>> --
>> John H
>>
>> **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
>> *****...and your New Year even Better!*****
>
>Only part was C4, they said the other was some undetectable stuff, that
>could be made in to book pages.
>

Right. I forgot about that one. They described both as being undetectable, but it
sure seems like C-4 had an odor. But, we're talking a 35 year-old memory, so I could
be wrong.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****
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It doesn't really matter. NOYB said that all support for terrorists comes
from someplace in the Middle East, so this story must be a fabrication. No
way in hell anyone could get their hands on the explosives described.
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"JohnH" wrote in message


>>This is kind of scary. A later report I heard on CNN said 550 pounds of
>>plastic explosives were taken. If the stuff isn't found and it is the
>>hands of the usual nutcases, we're in for some bad news.
>
> This has been on the radio, every hour on the hour, all day long. UPI
> didn't have much to add. I
> can't figure out why you posted it. The explosive was C-4. Det cord is fun
> stuff.
> --
> John H

It seems to be gone from today's news. Either there's nothing more to add,
or it's just interesting that it's gone.
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:04:30 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

>Doug Kanter wrote:
>> "JohnH" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>> This is kind of scary. A later report I heard on CNN said 550 pounds of
>>>> plastic explosives were taken. If the stuff isn't found and it is the
>>>> hands of the usual nutcases, we're in for some bad news.
>>> This has been on the radio, every hour on the hour, all day long. UPI
>>> didn't have much to add. I
>>> can't figure out why you posted it. The explosive was C-4. Det cord is fun
>>> stuff.
>>> --
>>> John H
>>
>> It seems to be gone from today's news. Either there's nothing more to add,
>> or it's just interesting that it's gone.
>>
>>
>
>
>Here are some details from an ABC report I hadn't previously seen:
>
>Explosives Heist One of the Biggest in Recent History
>Officials Say The Material Taken From the New Mexico Area Can Level a
>Building
>
>Dec. 20, 2005 — - According to federal officials, the theft of 400
>pounds of high-powered plastic explosives in New Mexico is one of the
>largest high explosives heists in recent history.
>
>The material was taken from Cherry Engineering, a company owned by Chris
>Cherry, a scientist at Sandia National Labs. The site, located outside
>Albuquerque, had no guards and no surveillance cameras. It was the
>site's second theft in the past two years.
>
>Thieves apparently used blowtorches to cut through the storage trailers
>-- suggesting they knew what they were after.
>
>Officials say that the amount of stolen explosives would be enough to
>match the bomb that destroyed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995
>and they do not know who might be responsible.
>
>"We don't have any suspect," said Wayne Dixie of the Bureau of Alcohol,
>Tobacco and Firearms. "We don't have any leads at this point."
>
>The stolen goods include 150 pounds of C-4 plastic explosive and 250
>pounds of thin sheets of explosives that could be used in letter bombs.
>Also, 2,500 detonators were missing from a storage explosive container,
>or magazine, in a bunker owned by Cherry Engineering.
>
>"Believe me, this can cause a catastrophic explosion of unbelievable
>proportions in the right configuration," said Jack Cloonan, an ABC News
>consultant and former FBI agent. "So it's very dangerous. We have to
>find this stuff and find it now."
>
>In anticipation of potential danger, officials sent an alert to federal
>buildings and courthouses in New Mexico.
>
>"This is not stuff that you peddle around at the flea market, Cloonan
>said. "This is stuff that has specific use."
>
>
>* * * *
>
>I've seen C4, but I have no idea what a "thin sheet of explosive" that
>could be used in a letter bomb looks like or acts like.
>
>The part about the building having no security was interesting. I wonder
>if this is the norm.

Imagine C-4 flattened to about 1/8th inch. That should provide an idea. Yesterday's
news said the building met the requirements of the ATF guys. Apparently, surveillance
cameras or live guards are not part of the requirements.
--
John H

**** May your Christmas be Spectacular!****
*****...and your New Year even Better!*****
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"JohnH" wrote in message



>>I've seen C4, but I have no idea what a "thin sheet of explosive" that
>>could be used in a letter bomb looks like or acts like.
>>
>>The part about the building having no security was interesting. I wonder
>>if this is the norm.
>
> Imagine C-4 flattened to about 1/8th inch. That should provide an idea.
> Yesterday's
> news said the building met the requirements of the ATF guys. Apparently,
> surveillance
> cameras or live guards are not part of the requirements.
> --
> John H

Random thoughts:

1) I wonder why some politicians are so concerned that guys like me might
have a 14 round magazine in a handgun, instead of a 10 round magazine, but
meanwhile, it seems to be OK to store explosives in a shed you buy from
Sears.

2) I wonder if the cops have that scientist strapped to a chair, with wires
connected to his jewels. If not, why not?
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