Police Marine Units

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message



 >
  > > Would you be offended if the
  > > cops did a safety inspection on your vessel while you were waiting in
line
  > > to launch at a boat ramp? It seems to me like it would save time that
way.
  > >
 >
 > That's a good idea. Include proper anchors in the list of necessary toys.
 > I've had the CG look over my yacht and check everything EXCEPT the anchor.
I
 > can't tell you how many times I've had to hoist MY anchor to get out of
the
 > way of some putz with an undersized anchor whose boat starts drifting and
 > threatening other anchored boats because the guy's motor won't start fast
 > enough.
 >
 > Fishing is my church. Nobody disturbs my worship with my whining about it.
 >
 >
Alrighty then. I'm actually writing down everything that I get out of my
inquiry, so thank you for your input.
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<-= swatcop =->

"If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."
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"swatcop" wrote in message

 >Thanks for the tip on the narrow areas, although I
 > would have thought that to be common sense. Maybe it's different in your
 > area.

It's different here. We have a patch of river 8 miles long and 200 - 300
feet wide. And often the Marine Patroll doods troll right up the middle,
particularly the newer younger guys. I mean, it is "instinct" to drive up
the middle, but if you see a skiier coming it's *nice* to pull aside, as
opposed to watching to see if he'll slow down for you.

 >And as a question on the safety checks, other than the marinas in my
 > town, most people use a public boat ramp area. Would you be offended if
the
 > cops did a safety inspection on your vessel while you were waiting in line
 > to launch at a boat ramp? It seems to me like it would save time that way.

*I* wouldn't be offended at the ramp, no. I tend to be be a comedian about
it and show him the life-preservers, throwables, ski-vests, fire
extinguisher, flares, whistle, horn, anchor, sunscreen, sunglasses, TCW-3,
12 soda, 6 beer, 1 energy drink, 1 milk, 1 orange juice, 1 orange, 2 apple
pies, 1 canned ravioli, 1 Spaghetti-O's Etc etc...

(yanno - we might think it's funny - until the day the Marine Patroll finds
a subject in hypoglycemic shock and comes screaming after my boat to get my
goodies - *then* he'll be glad I showed him the Hostess Apple Pies!)

But anyway, a lot of people tend to view a "safety check" like an "MV
stop" - they wanna know what they did to draw your attention in the first
place. <shrug>

Speaking of the ramp, I don't know how enforcable it is (perhaps via
loitering laws hehe) but some of the idiots that tie up / slow down the
ramps need a ticket for *something* LOL.

-W

PS: Look at bright side - it's *got* to be a lot more fun than S.W.A.T. work
is!!
Just still be carefull out there. Binoculars are your friend. If you run
into drug runners on a boat, it's way too easy to just shoot the cop and
sink the evidence. Remember *they* already know what's up as your
approaching them.
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MOST importantly. Come back HERE often to post the best "idiot" stories.
!!!

I'll give you the best one I ever heard:

A friend of mine is a State Trooper. One night he was gassing up his
vehicle at one of the little "Statie stops" they have here for the Troopers
to gas up at. So while he's filling his (unmarked) car, the subject pulls
up to the pumps, drunk as a skunk, and when the Officer comes over to the
subjects window to see what he possibly could want - he slurrs: "Fill her
up please".

A moment of silence follows while the officer looks at the subject ,
meanwhile the subject is looking the officer up and down, and becomes dimly
aware of the real situation.

Subject rolls down his window - stucks out both hands - and says "OK you got
me - that was pretty clever"

Poor cop said he had a hard time stopping laughing long enough to ask the
guy for his liscence and reg so he could start the OUI arrest.. LOL.

"So how'd you get this one?"

"He just kinda drove up and surrendered."

-W

"swatcop" wrote in message

 > Alrighty then. I'm actually writing down everything that I get out of my
 > inquiry, so thank you for your input.
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On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:11:59 GMT, "Clams Canino"
wrote:

 >Meet my new ski spotter??
 >
 >http://realdoll.com/
 >

I see you found a picture of Krause's "young" wife.
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WaIIy wrote:
 > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 21:11:59 GMT, "Clams Canino"

 >
  >>Meet my new ski spotter??
  >>
  >>http://realdoll.com/
  >>
 >
 > I see you found a picture of Krause's "young" wife.
 >

Poor Wally. Still being turned down for sex by...

....his hand.





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Sir,
I am impressed! I have always had positive dealings with law enforcement, as
a P.S. teacher and as a boat captain. But the fact that I see you not only
ask but reply to local boaters, I think we have a real asset on the water
with you! If you are in the Naples to E.G.C. area I hope to see you
'unofficially on the water. Be safe, I'll do the same!

Capt. Matt



"swatcop" wrote in message

 >
 >
 >


  > > First off, thanks for asking! And welcome to Florida waters!! What kind
of
  > > problems really depends on were you are, East coast is VERY different
from
  > > West as far as perceived problems. OUI is always a concern for me as a
 > tour
  > > operator as well as inexperienced operators. I don't want to jump on the
 > PWC
  > > bashing bandwagon, but lots of these folks have no idea what safe
 > operation
  > > is, not all of them mind you. I have to tell you, a night patrol on
 > occasion
  > > will do a lot to ease many minds. As far as wake violations, I'm all for
  > > enforcement but some E.O.s from many fields have been over zealous and
 > would
  > > likely written a citation for boats at anchor in a strong spring tide if
  > > given the chance.
  > >
  > > Welcome! I'm just glad you are here!Conscientious law enforcement on the
  > > water is a good thing for all concerned even those that may be
  > > inconvenienced.
  > >
  > > Capt. Matt
  > >
 > Thank you for your input. Seems the jetskis are a common topic, and will
be
 > dealt with more severely. As for the waterway, I'll be on the west coast
in
 > the Gulf of Mexico. Thank you for the welcome and for the information, I
 > plan on making a POSITIVE change out there and not just becoming another
 > pain in the ass.
 > --
 > <-= swatcop =->
 >
 > "If it wasn't for stupid people I'd be unemployed."
 >
 >
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"swatcop" wrote in message


  > >
  > > I don't know the official legal name of the law covering wakes, but when
 > my
  > > son's in the boat, I call it "attempted murder". One of these days,
  > > someone's gonna get a bullet in their fuel tank.
  > >
  > > Do something about that, wherever you work.
  > >
 > I'm not sure of the actual name of the statute (as I said I'm new at this
 > aspect of policing), but I know it exists. Part of my training was with
the
 > Coast Guard, and I remember the instructor really driving his point home
 > about boaters being responsible for their wake. One of his examples was a
 > woman drinking coffee on her husband's boat. Some schmuck flew past them
and
 > she spilled her coffee on her lap resulting in burns. The operator of the
 > other boat was heavily fined and also came under civil suit. I will
 > definitely keep an eye on the wakes of vessels. Thank you for your input.

When you stop those people, always begin the conversation with "please kneel
on the deck and keep your hands where I can see them". Fear is good.

This is why I'm not a cop. I'd execute people for allowing their dogs to
roam the neighborhood unsupervised.
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But not the innocent dogs, I presume.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

"swatcop" wrote in message


  > >
  > > I don't know the official legal name of the law covering wakes, but when
 > my
  > > son's in the boat, I call it "attempted murder". One of these days,
  > > someone's gonna get a bullet in their fuel tank.
  > >
  > > Do something about that, wherever you work.
  > >
 > I'm not sure of the actual name of the statute (as I said I'm new at this
 > aspect of policing), but I know it exists. Part of my training was with
the
 > Coast Guard, and I remember the instructor really driving his point home
 > about boaters being responsible for their wake. One of his examples was a
 > woman drinking coffee on her husband's boat. Some schmuck flew past them
and
 > she spilled her coffee on her lap resulting in burns. The operator of the
 > other boat was heavily fined and also came under civil suit. I will
 > definitely keep an eye on the wakes of vessels. Thank you for your input.

When you stop those people, always begin the conversation with "please kneel
on the deck and keep your hands where I can see them". Fear is good.

This is why I'm not a cop. I'd execute people for allowing their dogs to
roam the neighborhood unsupervised.
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"swatcop" wrote in message


  > > That's a good idea. Include proper anchors in the list of necessary
toys.
  > > I've had the CG look over my yacht and check everything EXCEPT the
anchor.
 > I
  > > can't tell you how many times I've had to hoist MY anchor to get out of
 > the
  > > way of some putz with an undersized anchor whose boat starts drifting
and
  > > threatening other anchored boats because the guy's motor won't start
fast
  > > enough.
  > >
  > > Fishing is my church. Nobody disturbs my worship with my whining about
it.
  > >
  > >
 > Alrighty then. I'm actually writing down everything that I get out of my
 > inquiry, so thank you for your input.

By the time we're done with you, you may regret having asked for input.
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message

 >

   > > >
  > >
  > > That's a good idea. Include proper anchors in the list of necessary
toys.
  > > I've had the CG look over my yacht and check everything EXCEPT the
anchor.
 >
 > I don't know where you are, Doug, but the requirement to have an anchor
 > aboard is not Federal. Many states have placed their own requirement for
an
 > anchor, and generally the CG will include the anchor as required in those
 > states.


Well, then people without anchors should be tried on the spot by the nearest
12 *other* boaters. If judged to be stupid, they should be fed day-old
unrefrigerated nightcrawlers.

I have spoken.
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"Clams Canino" wrote in message


 >
 > Speaking of the ramp, I don't know how enforcable it is (perhaps via
 > loitering laws hehe) but some of the idiots that tie up / slow down the
 > ramps need a ticket for *something* LOL.
 >

I know what you mean. There's a whole list of behaviors which fall into the
category of "general lack of consideration", like warming up your 17 year
old Chevy Blazer for 20 minutes right outside your neighbor's open window,
because you think them darn EPA hippies are wrong about fumes being bad for
you.

At one of our local ramps, there's some sort of unofficial thing that goes
on. Officially, they have nubile babes collecting the ramp fee. And
officially, boaters are "advised" by 2-3 old guys who look like they spent
the last 6 months in a life raft. Mostly, they spend their time reminding
the illiterate that ramps are designated for "in" or "out" depending on
traffic, and that the "IN" and "OUT" signs mean (quizzically) "In" or "Out".
UNofficially, these old guys are usually accompanied by equally ancient
buddies who hang around helping kids with bait, or showing newbies how to
operate a cleat. You can sort of tell who's who by the presence or absence
of polo shirts with the township's emblem. ANYWAY....this crew of life raft
veterans does a good job of mildly embarrassing morons at the ramp. Imagine
Don Rickles, toned down by 50%.

My first time at the ramp, this young woman backs her PWC into the water and
ties it up right at the bottom of the ramp. Why move it down to the end so
someone else could launch while you park, especially since there were 30
cars waiting. She parks her car and sits in it for about 5 minutes doing
something to her hair. Meanwhile, nobody can move. One of the old guys yells
to her "Are you gonna get a manicure too, 'cause there are people waiting
but I could see if they'll come back tomorrow". Needless to say, she ended
her beauty parlor routine instantly. You can't argue with a 100 year old man
who obviously knows what he's talking about. There was much laughter
from the waiting cars.

Other nonsense: Signs all over the parking area say "Boaters Only - Vehicles
Without Trailers Will Be Ticketed". All day long, people come up to the
booth and ask the attendant "Do ya think I'll really get a ticket? I don't
have a trailer". Sometimes they approach the cop who's writing tickets and
ask if they can just park for a couple of hours without getting a ticket.


I really want to make a movie about this stuff. I need a catchy title. The
dumbest people will be featured in the movie without their permission.
Especially the monkeys who, on a really busy afternoon, let their 4 kids run
up and down the dock with fishing poles while other boaters are scrambling
to get in or out and make way for the next person. Or, the knuckleheads who
need help docking on a windy day, and when they toss you their line, it's
always 2 feet shorter than the distance from the boat to the dock. Wouldn't
want to buy a 15 ft rope when a 3 footer will work just as well. Sort of.

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"noah" wrote in message


 > I paid the fine, and thanked the judge for making it a very small one.
 > I think the judge was a fisherman. )
 >

Thank heaven for judges who understand the difference between the essence of
the law and the letter of the law (unlike the sad troopers who are told to
sit on the thruway all day and look only for speeders - never mind the
tailgaters, or 30 yr old dump trucks spewing opaque fumes).

Last year, I went to court to explain to a judge that I was doing 79 mph at
a certain moment, not 80 as the trooper claimed. The dangerous psychopath
ahead of me was in a wheelchair with neck brace and oxygen tank, after being
beaten mercilessly by 3 DEC officers for being a week gone on his fishing
license. The judge asked him if he was ware of the odd renewal date here in
NY - end of Sept or something like that. He responded that he understood,
but generally forgot, like almost everyone else who's also preoccupied with
raking leaves at that time of year. Then, the judge asked him how the
fishing was that day. He told the judge he'd been set upon by bluefills, and
hadn't caught any steelhead. The judge explained that justice would not be
served by fining a fisherman who hadn't caught anything worthwhile.
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On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 06:47:00 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:



 >
  >> I paid the fine, and thanked the judge for making it a very small one.
  >> I think the judge was a fisherman. )
  >>
 >
 >Thank heaven for judges who understand the difference between the essence of
 >the law and the letter of the law (unlike the sad troopers who are told to
 >sit on the thruway all day and look only for speeders - never mind the
 >tailgaters, or 30 yr old dump trucks spewing opaque fumes).
 >
 >Last year, I went to court to explain to a judge that I was doing 79 mph at
 >a certain moment, not 80 as the trooper claimed. The dangerous psychopath
 >ahead of me was in a wheelchair with neck brace and oxygen tank, after being
 >beaten mercilessly by 3 DEC officers for being a week gone on his fishing
 >license. The judge asked him if he was ware of the odd renewal date here in
 >NY - end of Sept or something like that. He responded that he understood,
 >but generally forgot, like almost everyone else who's also preoccupied with
 >raking leaves at that time of year. Then, the judge asked him how the
 >fishing was that day. He told the judge he'd been set upon by bluefills, and
 >hadn't caught any steelhead. The judge explained that justice would not be
 >served by fining a fisherman who hadn't caught anything worthwhile.
 >

Problem, "Doug"?

I didn't have the "wearable". I got a ticket. It was bullshit. I paid it.
I guess if I had been fishing from a Camaro, it would have been OK.

Pissed about something?
Regards,
noah

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Only children, the arrogant, or the ignorant, can truly enjoy it.
Only the arrogant and the ignorant insist upon doing it.

To email me, remove the "OT-" from OT-wrecked.boats.noah.
....as you were. )
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