ON Topic -- Power boat novice seeks advice

Great lakes are wonderful. Having your boat on the trailer allows you to
dunk it in what ever water system you want that particular weekend. I do
exactly what you are wanting to do. I have had dozens of different size
boats for this area and the one I have now is the most practical and fun. I
have a 26 footer that is around 1970, nice and heavy for these choppy
waters. Solid hull. I ripped out the I/O and put on an outboard. Mine is a
225hp FICHT but I like to trailer all over the place. Especially an annual
trip to the keys. We do the down rigging, we do the out rigging and flat
lining.
There are a lot of older style boats that are perfect for what your looking
for in your particular area. Many many. Grab the RV magazine and do some
research. Do not buy the first boat you see. And any repairs you do, do them
yourself as when you get out in the middle of that lake, you turn the key
and nothing happens, you will know how to make it happen.
I also have a 9.9 kicker that we use mostly as we downrig or cruise, much
easier for the ears, fuel consumption, and prolongs the life of the plugs of
the main engine. I also do not go near a marina, I know most of the marina
owners in your area and I wouldn't get them to provide change from a dollar.
Most operate their business in an unethical manner. You can reverse the old
theory that a boat is simply a hole in the water that one pours money. Try
to do as much as you can yourself.
Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
stuff as much should it be left at the marina. Like I said earlier, when the
pickerel are biting in lake Erie, you go there, when the rainbows are biting
in Ontario, you go there. We also have the wonderful opportunity of
selecting which water system to boat in as is one is rough, you go to the
others. There are hundreds of very good boat ramps in our area.
Good luck
Your on the right track.






"Jim" wrote in message
...
 >
 > I currently sail a 28' sailboat. The mast gets heavier
 > every year (it can't be me getting older). On the other hand
 > I fill the 20 gallon tank once/season, and usually have
 > something left over.
 >
 > Recently I've been thinking (gasp) Power Cruiser. I know
 > little about these. I think maybe 25' or so would give me
 > comparable space to my sailboat. I'd also like an enclosed
 > helm to both extend the season, and get out of the sun a
 > little more (had a chunk taken out of my hide a couple of
 > years ago) Motorsailors are out of my price range.
 >
 > So I look to you all for advice and counsel.
 >
 > 1 engine or 2, I/B or O/B, Aluminum or Glass? I like slow
 > and steady so more power doesn't really impress me -- I have
 > 30 HP in my sailboat. Fuel cost is also a factor.
 >
 > IF I had a place to sleep, keep my beer cold, cook
 > (minimally) and s,s,s&s, I'd be happy. (The shave, shower
 > and shine could be done ashore)
 >
 > Somehow I like older boats. Current is a 72. I have no
 > need to impress my dockmate.
 >
 > Price is a definite factor. Trailerable would be nice, but
 > I don't want to have to buy a new truck to haul it; I belong
 > to a YC with a co-op haulout, and the trailer would have
 > minimal use.
 >
 > Boating would be on the Great (and they are) lakes -- Lake
 > Ontario to be specific.
 >
 > Advice is welcome -- please tell me all the good/bad/ugly of
 > various boats. What do you think would best fit my needs.
 >
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I want to be you when I grow up!

Grissy

" Tuuk" wrote in message

 > Great lakes are wonderful. Having your boat on the trailer allows you to
 > dunk it in what ever water system you want that particular weekend. I do
 > exactly what you are wanting to do. I have had dozens of different size
 > boats for this area and the one I have now is the most practical and fun.
I
 > have a 26 footer that is around 1970, nice and heavy for these choppy
 > waters. Solid hull. I ripped out the I/O and put on an outboard. Mine is a
 > 225hp FICHT but I like to trailer all over the place. Especially an annual
 > trip to the keys. We do the down rigging, we do the out rigging and flat
 > lining.
 > There are a lot of older style boats that are perfect for what your
looking
 > for in your particular area. Many many. Grab the RV magazine and do some
 > research. Do not buy the first boat you see. And any repairs you do, do
them
 > yourself as when you get out in the middle of that lake, you turn the key
 > and nothing happens, you will know how to make it happen.
 > I also have a 9.9 kicker that we use mostly as we downrig or cruise, much
 > easier for the ears, fuel consumption, and prolongs the life of the plugs
of
 > the main engine. I also do not go near a marina, I know most of the marina
 > owners in your area and I wouldn't get them to provide change from a
dollar.
 > Most operate their business in an unethical manner. You can reverse the
old
 > theory that a boat is simply a hole in the water that one pours money. Try
 > to do as much as you can yourself.
 > Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
 > smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
 > boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
 > stuff as much should it be left at the marina. Like I said earlier, when
the
 > pickerel are biting in lake Erie, you go there, when the rainbows are
biting
 > in Ontario, you go there. We also have the wonderful opportunity of
 > selecting which water system to boat in as is one is rough, you go to the
 > others. There are hundreds of very good boat ramps in our area.
 > Good luck
 > Your on the right track.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >


  > >
  > > I currently sail a 28' sailboat. The mast gets heavier
  > > every year (it can't be me getting older). On the other hand
  > > I fill the 20 gallon tank once/season, and usually have
  > > something left over.
  > >
  > > Recently I've been thinking (gasp) Power Cruiser. I know
  > > little about these. I think maybe 25' or so would give me
  > > comparable space to my sailboat. I'd also like an enclosed
  > > helm to both extend the season, and get out of the sun a
  > > little more (had a chunk taken out of my hide a couple of
  > > years ago) Motorsailors are out of my price range.
  > >
  > > So I look to you all for advice and counsel.
  > >
  > > 1 engine or 2, I/B or O/B, Aluminum or Glass? I like slow
  > > and steady so more power doesn't really impress me -- I have
  > > 30 HP in my sailboat. Fuel cost is also a factor.
  > >
  > > IF I had a place to sleep, keep my beer cold, cook
  > > (minimally) and s,s,s&s, I'd be happy. (The shave, shower
  > > and shine could be done ashore)
  > >
  > > Somehow I like older boats. Current is a 72. I have no
  > > need to impress my dockmate.
  > >
  > > Price is a definite factor. Trailerable would be nice, but
  > > I don't want to have to buy a new truck to haul it; I belong
  > > to a YC with a co-op haulout, and the trailer would have
  > > minimal use.
  > >
  > > Boating would be on the Great (and they are) lakes -- Lake
  > > Ontario to be specific.
  > >
  > > Advice is welcome -- please tell me all the good/bad/ugly of
  > > various boats. What do you think would best fit my needs.
  > >
 >
 >
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Hmmmm... I wonder, in your case, if you could simply take all of the sailing
paraphernalia off of your present boat...and just use her for a slow, but
stable power boat? You'd have to add fuel capacity...but nothing else that I
can think of?? What do you think?
regards,
RichG
http://groups.msn.com/CarolinaSkiffOwners
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RichG wrote:
 > Hmmmm... I wonder, in your case, if you could simply take all of the sailing
 > paraphernalia off of your present boat...and just use her for a slow, but
 > stable power boat? You'd have to add fuel capacity...but nothing else that I
 > can think of?? What do you think?

It's a good idea but it takes a very strong willed person to go against
popular opinion. You could even add a pilothouse & more fuel tankage.

One of the nicest cruising boats I have been aboard is a Morgan Out
Island with the sailing rig chopped short, a pilothouse and a stern
platform and some other stuff added, and about half the ballast keel
sawed off. It was nowhere near as expensive as a "real" trawler style
yacht with the same accomodation would have been, and a lot more
practical most ways. It was a better looking boat IMHO than the Out
Island it started life as, too.

FB
Doug King
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I don't think the world can handle two of me at this time. One is scary
enough.






"Griss" wrote in message

 > I want to be you when I grow up!
 >
 > Grissy
 >


  > > Great lakes are wonderful. Having your boat on the trailer allows you to
  > > dunk it in what ever water system you want that particular weekend. I do
  > > exactly what you are wanting to do. I have had dozens of different size
  > > boats for this area and the one I have now is the most practical and
fun.
 > I
  > > have a 26 footer that is around 1970, nice and heavy for these choppy
  > > waters. Solid hull. I ripped out the I/O and put on an outboard. Mine is
a
  > > 225hp FICHT but I like to trailer all over the place. Especially an
annual
  > > trip to the keys. We do the down rigging, we do the out rigging and flat
  > > lining.
  > > There are a lot of older style boats that are perfect for what your
 > looking
  > > for in your particular area. Many many. Grab the RV magazine and do some
  > > research. Do not buy the first boat you see. And any repairs you do, do
 > them
  > > yourself as when you get out in the middle of that lake, you turn the
key
  > > and nothing happens, you will know how to make it happen.
  > > I also have a 9.9 kicker that we use mostly as we downrig or cruise,
much
  > > easier for the ears, fuel consumption, and prolongs the life of the
plugs
 > of
  > > the main engine. I also do not go near a marina, I know most of the
marina
  > > owners in your area and I wouldn't get them to provide change from a
 > dollar.
  > > Most operate their business in an unethical manner. You can reverse the
 > old
  > > theory that a boat is simply a hole in the water that one pours money.
Try
  > > to do as much as you can yourself.
  > > Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
  > > smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing
and
  > > boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
  > > stuff as much should it be left at the marina. Like I said earlier, when
 > the
  > > pickerel are biting in lake Erie, you go there, when the rainbows are
 > biting
  > > in Ontario, you go there. We also have the wonderful opportunity of
  > > selecting which water system to boat in as is one is rough, you go to
the
  > > others. There are hundreds of very good boat ramps in our area.
  > > Good luck
  > > Your on the right track.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >


   > > >
   > > > I currently sail a 28' sailboat. The mast gets heavier
   > > > every year (it can't be me getting older). On the other hand
   > > > I fill the 20 gallon tank once/season, and usually have
   > > > something left over.
   > > >
   > > > Recently I've been thinking (gasp) Power Cruiser. I know
   > > > little about these. I think maybe 25' or so would give me
   > > > comparable space to my sailboat. I'd also like an enclosed
   > > > helm to both extend the season, and get out of the sun a
   > > > little more (had a chunk taken out of my hide a couple of
   > > > years ago) Motorsailors are out of my price range.
   > > >
   > > > So I look to you all for advice and counsel.
   > > >
   > > > 1 engine or 2, I/B or O/B, Aluminum or Glass? I like slow
   > > > and steady so more power doesn't really impress me -- I have
   > > > 30 HP in my sailboat. Fuel cost is also a factor.
   > > >
   > > > IF I had a place to sleep, keep my beer cold, cook
   > > > (minimally) and s,s,s&s, I'd be happy. (The shave, shower
   > > > and shine could be done ashore)
   > > >
   > > > Somehow I like older boats. Current is a 72. I have no
   > > > need to impress my dockmate.
   > > >
   > > > Price is a definite factor. Trailerable would be nice, but
   > > > I don't want to have to buy a new truck to haul it; I belong
   > > > to a YC with a co-op haulout, and the trailer would have
   > > > minimal use.
   > > >
   > > > Boating would be on the Great (and they are) lakes -- Lake
   > > > Ontario to be specific.
   > > >
   > > > Advice is welcome -- please tell me all the good/bad/ugly of
   > > > various boats. What do you think would best fit my needs.
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
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In article , " Tuuk" wrote:

 >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
 >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
 >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
 >stuff as much should it be left at the marina

Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...
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nyuk.DeleteThis@nyuk.com (Henry Blackmoore) wrote in message ...

 >
  > >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
  > >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
  > >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
  > >stuff as much should it be left at the marina
 >
 > Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...

Wrong, again, fool:
<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm" target="_blank">http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm</a>
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On 7 Apr 2004 04:13:36 -0700, (basskisser) wrote:



  >>
   >> >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
   >> >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
   >> >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
   >> >stuff as much should it be left at the marina
  >>
  >> Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...
 >
 >Wrong, again, fool:
 >http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm

According to your cite, Maryland is #1 when it comes to robbery. Old
data to be sure, but you're the one who posted it. And since the
comment was about stealing, the robbery stat is apropos.

Steve
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Ya,, well I never did think Asskisser was too smart. Your proof of this is
interesting but unnecessary, we all knew of his lack of
intelligence,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,long ago.








"Steven Shelikoff" wrote in message


 >

...

wrote:
   > >>
   > >> >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a
very
   > >> >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing
and
   > >> >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing
the
   > >> >stuff as much should it be left at the marina
   > >>
   > >> Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...
  > >
  > >Wrong, again, fool:
  > >http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm
 >
 > According to your cite, Maryland is #1 when it comes to robbery. Old
 > data to be sure, but you're the one who posted it. And since the
 > comment was about stealing, the robbery stat is apropos.
 >
 > Steve
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In article , shelikoff RemoveThis @yawho.com (Steven Shelikoff) wrote:


 >




   >>>
   >>> >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
   >>> >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
   >>> >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
   >>> >stuff as much should it be left at the marina
   >>>
   >>> Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...
  >>
  >>Wrong, again, fool:
  >>http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm
 >
 >According to your cite, Maryland is #1 when it comes to robbery. Old
 >data to be sure, but you're the one who posted it. And since the
 >comment was about stealing, the robbery stat is apropos.
 >
 >Steve

LOL
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shelikoff.DeleteThis@yawho.com (Steven Shelikoff) wrote in message ...

 >


   > >>
   > >> >Leaving the boat on a trailer and in your driveway for example is a very
   > >> >smart idea also. You do not have to unload all your expensive fishing and
   > >> >boating equipment and you do not have to worry about people stealing the
   > >> >stuff as much should it be left at the marina
   > >>
   > >> Not if you live in Maryland the crime rate capital of America...
  > >
  > >Wrong, again, fool:
  > >http://www.morganquitno.com/DANG00RANK.htm
 >
 > According to your cite, Maryland is #1 when it comes to robbery. Old
 > data to be sure, but you're the one who posted it. And since the
 > comment was about stealing, the robbery stat is apropos.
 >
 > Steve

So, I take it you didn't bother to read the REST of the data? If you
did, then you'd know that, clearly, Maryland is quite low in the crime
scale, and a long, long way from being the "crime rate capital of
America", as Henry the drunkard states.
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