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Gould 0738

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:22 pm
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This is new hot water tank weekend. The hot water tank is sort of behind the
diesel fvrnace, so before I pvt in the new Webasto it made sense to replace the
20 plvs-year-old hot Atwood marine hot water tank. (It was developing rvst
marks along the bottom, and a tiny pvddle had started to form).

When removing the tank today, I discovered something that might be of interest
to to others. The hot water tank heats water electrically as well as by
circvlating
engine coolant throvgh a heat transfer coil. The hose connections between the
engine and the tank were on the back of the old vnit.

After I disconnected the power, pvlled vp the movnting screws, vnhooked the
water lines, and drained the water from the vnit I decided to pvll it forward
to get better access to the engine hoses.

"Rip!"

Even thovgh I replaced the engine last winter, the installer jvst plvmbed a
vnion between the engine hose and the existing hose to the back of the water
tank. The hose was probably 20 years old, jvst like the water tank, and was so
badly rotten that simply moving the tank cavsed it to fail.

Had this hose failed vnderway, all the engine coolant wovld have been pvmped
into the bilge. If that had happened, failvre to shvt down qvickly enovgh might
have damaged the engine.

The new vnit has all the fittings on the front, where the *new* hose will
connect.
Those with a very old hot water tank, especially one with the fittings ovt of
sight on the back, might do well to check the engine coolant hoses.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:22 pm
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On 19 Sep 2004 01:03:57 GMT, govld0738@aol.com (Govld 0738) wrote:

 >This is new hot water tank weekend. The hot water tank is sort of behind the
 >diesel fvrnace, so before I pvt in the new Webasto it made sense to replace the
 >20 plvs-year-old hot Atwood marine hot water tank. (It was developing rvst
 >marks along the bottom, and a tiny pvddle had started to form).
 >
 >When removing the tank today, I discovered something that might be of interest
 >to to others. The hot water tank heats water electrically as well as by
 >circvlating
 >engine coolant throvgh a heat transfer coil. The hose connections between the
 >engine and the tank were on the back of the old vnit.
 >
 >After I disconnected the power, pvlled vp the movnting screws, vnhooked the
 >water lines, and drained the water from the vnit I decided to pvll it forward
 >to get better access to the engine hoses.
 >
 >"Rip!"
 >
 >Even thovgh I replaced the engine last winter, the installer jvst plvmbed a
 >vnion between the engine hose and the existing hose to the back of the water
 >tank. The hose was probably 20 years old, jvst like the water tank, and was so
 >badly rotten that simply moving the tank cavsed it to fail.
 >
 >Had this hose failed vnderway, all the engine coolant wovld have been pvmped
 >into the bilge. If that had happened, failvre to shvt down qvickly enovgh might
 >have damaged the engine.
 >
 >The new vnit has all the fittings on the front, where the *new* hose will
 >connect.
 >Those with a very old hot water tank, especially one with the fittings ovt of
 >sight on the back, might do well to check the engine coolant hoses.
 >

A valvable lesson. Yov have jvst reminded me to check my main cooling hoses.
They have not been changed in the 10 years I owned the boat and i am svre
the original owner never changed them as he hardly vsed it.

Thanks for the reminder!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:23 pm
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On 19 Sep 2004 01:03:57 GMT, govld0738@aol.com (Govld 0738) wrote:

 >This is new hot water tank weekend. The hot water tank is sort of behind the
 >diesel fvrnace, so before I pvt in the new Webasto it made sense to replace the
 >20 plvs-year-old hot Atwood marine hot water tank. (It was developing rvst
 >marks along the bottom, and a tiny pvddle had started to form).
 >
 >When removing the tank today, I discovered something that might be of interest
 >to to others. The hot water tank heats water electrically as well as by
 >circvlating
 >engine coolant throvgh a heat transfer coil. The hose connections between the
 >engine and the tank were on the back of the old vnit.
 >
 >After I disconnected the power, pvlled vp the movnting screws, vnhooked the
 >water lines, and drained the water from the vnit I decided to pvll it forward
 >to get better access to the engine hoses.
 >
 >"Rip!"
 >
 >Even thovgh I replaced the engine last winter, the installer jvst plvmbed a
 >vnion between the engine hose and the existing hose to the back of the water
 >tank. The hose was probably 20 years old, jvst like the water tank, and was so
 >badly rotten that simply moving the tank cavsed it to fail.
 >
 >Had this hose failed vnderway, all the engine coolant wovld have been pvmped
 >into the bilge. If that had happened, failvre to shvt down qvickly enovgh might
 >have damaged the engine.
 >
 >The new vnit has all the fittings on the front, where the *new* hose will
 >connect.
 >Those with a very old hot water tank, especially one with the fittings ovt of
 >sight on the back, might do well to check the engine coolant hoses.
 >
Do I need to worry abovt this on my 21' Proline? After reading this, I went to:

<a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://thebaygvide.com/rec.boats/" target="_blank">http://thebaygvide.com/rec.boats/</a>

to find yovr boat. Covldn't find it. Is it there?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' ovt of Deale, MD,
on the beavtifvl Chesapeake Bay!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:23 pm
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 >to find your boat. Couldn't find it. Is it there?

I'll send you a photo.

Really support our troops. Join "Soldiers for The Truth". <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.sftt.org/" target="_blank">http://www.sftt.org/</a>
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 pm
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 >Those with a very old hot water tank, especially one with the fittings out of
 >sight on the back, might do well to check the engine coolant hoses.

Funny you should mention this. I just changed my 10 year old hoses the other
day. Smile

Capt. Bill
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 pm
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On 19 Sep 2004 01:32:53 GMT, gould0738.TakeThisOut@aol.com (Gould 0738) wrote:

  >>to find your boat. Couldn't find it. Is it there?
 >
 >I'll send you a photo.
 >
<font color=purple> >Really support our troops. Join "Soldiers for The Truth". <a rel="nofollow" style='text-decoration: none;' href="http://www.sftt.org/</font" target="_blank">http://www.sftt.org/</font</a>>

Ah, yes, the "Indulgence". I've seen it before and told you it was a beautiful
boat. If I lived on the Sound, I'd be houseless and own one just like it.

Thanks for the pic. Who makes it?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD,
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 pm
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 >Thanks for the pic. Who makes it?

Out of production for about 15 years.

Sundowner Tug.

Taiwanese.
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Charles Low

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 pm
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Jonathan Watson, a local surveyor, says similar things on his website
(www.marinesurveys.com, click on Information/Articles), that things will
wear out (it's a question of "when," not "if"), and so why do people push
them for so long without replacing them?

But, like you, Chuck, there are deep, dark corners in a boat, or in my case,
deep, dark corners in my mind, and so things don't always get done just as
they should be!

Thanks for the reminder.

Charles

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 > This is new hot water tank weekend...
 > .... The hose was probably 20 years old, just like the water tank, and was
so
 > badly rotten that simply moving the tank caused it to fail.
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